Sunday, 23 November 2008

Just a little atheist vignette

"Societies [are] worse off 'when they have God on their side'" claims this article (found via here) and to be honest, I can't say I'm much surprised. Firstly, I've seen reports and articles that've come to much the same conclusion before. Secondly, I've believed for quite some time that people are more likely to have a decent grasp of right & wrong (which would then, presumably, bring down rates of major crime, one of the factors mentioned in the article) if they actually think about why certain things are right and others are wrong. And of course, no, "because [x holy book] says so" does not qualify as thinking. Then again, that's probably fodder for a whole other post, really.

But one additional thing that caught my eye is this bit towards the end of the article, where the idea of "scientific proof" of God is mentioned. The person bringing up the idea is evidently not religious, but lots of people in the past - from Anselm to Aquinas - have claimed to have discovered rational "proof" of God. Now, I'm certainly not the first atheist to bring this up, but doesn't it entirely undermine your entire anti-atheist argument of "you can't apply scientific thinking to God" (i.e "don't expect to understand God; he's magical") if you do evidently bow down to rationalist, scientific evidence? Again, I'm not the first person to bring this up, but if someone found absolutely definitive proof of the existence of God tomorrow, would religious people stick to their guns and ignore it?


Michelle said...

Hey, it's Michelle from Buffyfest. Great post. Really enjoyed it.

Jayunderscorezero said...

Ta very much. It's always nice to have some positive feedback.